Legislature(1995 - 1996)

03/02/1995 09:15 AM Senate FIN

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  SENATE BILL NO.  1                                                           
                                                                               
       An Act relating to state implementation of federal                      
       statutes.                                                               
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford  directed that SB  1 be  brought on  for                 
  discussion.   SENATOR  TAYLOR, sponsor  of the  legislation,                 
  noted that the  bill was not originally referred to Finance.                 
  Referral was made when the  legislation picked up additional                 
  fiscal  notes.    The  bill   was  introduced  as  companion                 
  legislation to SJR  7--the Tenth Amendment  resolution which                 
  has already passed  the legislature and been  transmitted to                 
  the Governor.   That resolution  demands that Congress  stop                 
  passing   federal   mandates   which  exceed   Congressional                 
  authority under  the Tenth Amendment.   SB  1 represents  an                 
  attempt  to identify  federal  mandates, both  statutory and                 
  regulatory, which conflict with state policy or exceed state                 
  constitutional limitations.  Similar legislation, passed  in                 
  Colorado last year,  declares that  state government has  an                 
  obligation to the public to do  what is necessary to protect                 
  the  right of  citizens  of the  state  while minimizing  or                 
  eliminating additional cost or regulatory burden.                            
                                                                               
  To  accomplish  the  foregoing goal,  SB  1  requires annual                 
  review of  each  Congressionally  mandated  program  by  the                 
  executive  branch.   An annual  report to  the  Governor and                 
  Legislative  Budget and  Audit  Committee  would  set  forth                 
  conclusions and make recommendations for changes  in federal                 
  law to make programs more cost effective and consistent with                 
  state policy.   A determination  could also be  made by  the                 
  Dept. of Law concerning whether  the mandate exceeds federal                 
  authority.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Sec.  1  of the  bill contains  findings  of urgent  need to                 
  modify  certain  mandates  because   implementation  of  the                 
  mandates  wastes  the  financial  resources  of  the  state,                 
  municipalities, and residents,  and federal regulators often                 
  do not understand the needs and priorities of Alaskans.  The                 
  bill  provides for  legislative review of  federal mandates.                 
  The Legislative Budget and Audit  Committee would be charged                 
  with making recommendations to  the Governor on the  need to                 
  seek a change  in federal statutes, regulations  or policies                 
  suited to state needs, suggest changes in the impacted state                 
  program to  implement the  mandate more  efficiently, or  to                 
  pursue  legal  challenge  to the  validity  of  the mandate.                 
  Passage of SB 1 will add credence to passage of SJR 7.                       
                                                                               
  Senator  Taylor next  referenced fiscal  notes  submitted by                 
  departments, noting the Dept. of Health and Social Services'                 
  claim  it  will need  a $77.0  a  year special  assistant to                 
  review  federal  mandates.    The  Dept.  of  Public  Safety                 
  requests $6.0  to establish  a format and  time table,  seek                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  field input,  compile responses, draw conclusions, and issue                 
  a report.   The Senator  voiced his belief that  the type of                 
  review envisioned  by SB  1 is  already part  of the  budget                 
  process.  It is difficult to believe that departments do not                 
  review   mandated  programs   with   an   eye  toward   cost                 
  effectiveness and inconsistency with state policy.                           
                                                                               
  Senator  Taylor   acknowledged  that   departments  do   not                 
  presently  review  programs  to  determine  if  they  exceed                 
  constitutional authority.  The intent of  SB 1 is to flag  a                 
  program  for later  review at  the will  of the  Legislative                 
  Budget  and   Audit  Committee   rather  than   to  make   a                 
  determination at the department level.  In that respect,  SB
  1 may need to  be amended to strengthen legislative  review.                 
  Senator Taylor voiced his  belief that much of the  work the                 
  proposed  bill  would generate  at  the department  level is                 
  already being done.                                                          
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford  asked the sponsor for  a recommendation                 
  on  fiscal notes  to  accompany the  bill.   Senator  Taylor                 
  recommended  a  zero   note.     He  reiterated  that   work                 
  contemplated by the  bill should be  ongoing at the  present                 
  time, particularly in light of passage of SJR 7.                             
                                                                               
  Senator Zharoff directed attention  to page 2, line  13, and                 
  noted  language   referencing  "head  of   another  agency."                 
  Senator Taylor suggested that the  legislature would want to                 
  know if the  Alaska Housing Finance Corporation,  AIDEA, the                 
  railroad,   etc.   are   adversely   impacted   by   federal                 
  legislation.   As an  example, he  cited the  Americans with                 
  Disabilities Act.                                                            
                                                                               
  Senator Zharoff  referenced a  substantial fiscal  note from                 
  the Dept. of Health and Social Services and suggested that a                 
  number  of  federal  mandates  impact   the  department  and                 
  necessitate substantial review.  Senator Taylor concurred.                   
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger asked if mandatory quarterly tax withholdings                 
  or social  security payments  would be  included within  the                 
  definition of  federal mandates.   Senator  Taylor responded                 
  that  the  definition  is generic  and  would  include areas                 
  mentioned by Senator Rieger.  The sponsor advised that those                 
  items  would   likely  be   included  in   reports  to   the                 
  legislature.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Senator Sharp voiced  support for the legislation.  He noted                 
  concern that the state is  often attracted to federal money,                 
  and it provides the necessary match without knowing what the                 
  overall economic impact will be, either long or short  term.                 
  The  proposed  bill would  force  an economic  evaluation, a                 
  determination  of  whether  the  program  is necessary,  and                 
  evaluation of future impact.                                                 
                                                                               
  Senator  Taylor  pointed  to over  $200  million  in federal                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  mandates, grants, and incentive programs within the Dept. of                 
  Education  and  noted that  the  department did  not request                 
  additional moneys for review and evaluation.                                 
                                                                               
  Senator Phillips  MOVED that SB  1 pass from  committee with                 
  individual  recommendations  and   the  zero  fiscal  notes.                 
  Senator  Zharoff  OBJECTED,  voicing  concern regarding  the                 
  burden that would  be placed  upon the Dept.  of Health  and                 
  Social Services.  He then REMOVED his OBJECTION.                             
                                                                               
  ELMER  LINDSTROM, Special  Assistant,  Dept. of  Health  and                 
  Social Services, came before committee.   He noted the  wide                 
  variation in  fiscal  notes  submitted  by  departments  and                 
  suggested that it  reflects a wide variation  in assumptions                 
  of what the bill would entail.  He explained that since work                 
  within the Dept.  of Health and  Social Services involves  a                 
  great deal of  federal activity,  the department assumes  it                 
  would be  reviewing each  federal dollar  and each  discrete                 
  program  as  a   federal  mandate  and  reporting   new  and                 
  additional information beyond historical analysis.  If it is                 
  the intent of the sponsor and  the legislature that the bill                 
  will   merely   entail   a   "recapitulation"  of   existing                 
  information and efforts, there will be no cost.                              
                                                                               
  Senator Donley voiced  concern that passage of  the proposed                 
  bill would  impose a  mandate on  state departments  without                 
  providing the necessary resources to do the work.  He voiced                 
  support for the  bill but not  for zeroing of fiscal  notes.                 
  The legislature  may not  get the  results it  seeks without                 
  making some accommodation or providing some resources.                       
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford  voiced his belief  that departments are                 
  already doing what  the proposed legislation requests.   The                 
  Dept.  of  Health and  Social  Service, in  particular, must                 
  analyze federal programs to maximize federal share, etc.                     
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford called for objections  to passage of the                 
  bill.   None were  forthcoming.   SB 1  was REPORTED OUT  of                 
  committee with a  zero Senate Finance Committee  fiscal note                 
  covering all departments.  Co-chairmen Halford and Frank and                 
  Senators Phillips and Sharp signed the committee report with                 
  a "do pass"  recommendation.   Senators Donley, Rieger,  and                 
  Zharoff signed "no recommendation."                                          
                                                                               

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